How to add doubling to an octave?
Honestly, I saw this for the first time just recently.
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The built-in way is to select the note, and Add menu > Interval > Octave Below (if you've entered the upper note, first.) If you entered the lower note first, a simple OPT-8 will enter the octave above.
Of course, this begs the question of why there isn't a simple combination to enter an interval below the selected pitch. Finale has it...
In reply to The built-in way is Add menu… by mikey12045
In Edit / Preferences / Shortcuts, there is an "action" built for it. It just doesn't have a "shortcut". So, assign it a shortcut and off you go.
In reply to In Edit / Preferences /… by TheHutch
I looked quickly, but I didn’t see that listed. I’ll look again for it in the list.
In reply to I looked quickly, but I didn… by mikey12045
Search for "octave"
In reply to Search for "octave" by TheHutch
Yes, and what about the abbreviation itself? It is an abbreviation, you can see it in the photo...
In reply to Yes, and what about the… by rsherevenec
So the 8 means “add an octave note” either above or below, depending on where it is, I guess. You could add the number as a lyric or text insert. That won’t give you the octave on playback, though. If you need that as well as the graphic, you might need to add the note and hide it (if that’s possible.) I’m a beginner, so wait for a pro to step in!
In reply to So the 8 means “add an… by mikey12045
Yes, that's right. That's how this abbreviation works... But in that case it won't be it, but just an imitation of it...
In reply to So the 8 means “add an… by mikey12045
No, the 8 means play this note an octave higher (or lower, if below) where it is notated. It doesn't mean double the note. (I didn't look at the image before.)
In reply to No, the 8 means play this… by TheHutch
No, a 1-3 octave lowering or raising only happens when there is a dotted line indicating the section of notes that will be changed. Here, there is no dotted line, and the "8" indicates that one note will be doubled. This is how it should be
In reply to No, a 1-3 octave lowering or… by rsherevenec
Click on the 8 to select it and look in the lower left corner, the status bar. You will see that the selected item is an "Ottava: 8va". I am not aware of there being any notation to double a note, at any interval.
In reply to Click on the 8 to select it… by TheHutch
It's two different things, I repeat
In reply to It's two different things, I… by rsherevenec
Right. In the OPs picture, he is showing one measure with single notes, and the 8 either above or below. In the following measure, he shows the notes doubled in the octave, with no 8.
If it was meant to be an 8va or 8vb (even though many claim there's no such thing, but let's not go there) the following measure would show the single note moved an octave.
That image does not mean double the note an octave down. The 8 below a note is what you get when you add an "8va bassa" to a quarter ,or smaller, note. Just the 8 shows. The notes in the image are to be played an octave lower. At least that's what will happen in playback. Not doubled. Who knows what was intended.
In reply to That image does not mean… by bobjp
8va bassa and the sign I'm talking about is the same thing, written differently
In reply to 8va bassa and the sign I'm… by rsherevenec
But this is not accurate.
In reply to But this is not accurate. by rsherevenec
I believe you are mistaken. Do you have a source for an "8" by itself meaning that a note is to be doubled?
I have never seen such notation in my ~60 years of performing music. As far as I know, no symbol for doubling exists. A composer simply writes two notes in a chord to indicate doubling.
In reply to I believe you are mistaken… by TheHutch
Okay. Actually, where I found this (photo) was in Russian. And there is a USSR music theory textbook that explains it. But I couldn't find any mention of it anywhere else.