• Aug 20, 2023 - 22:12

I there a way to readjust the measures and barlines of the entire score automatically in a score after changing the first one as a pickup measure? For eg: make a score in 4/4 with 32 bars. Result is fine. Then make the first note as a pick up note by splitting the first bar. Now the first note is a pick up bar note. Naturally the bar after this pick up bar stays as 3 beats and the all the rest of score remains without change in 4/4. How can we readjust all bars lines to make all other measures to have four beats? Last bar must have three beats.
I am not sure if I explained the question enough for you to understand.


In reply to by HenJor

Thank you. I could not explain my issue for others to understand well as I see it. I will try again if I can attach a screen shot later. I tried this help topics earlier which did not solve my issue. Thank you very much for responding.

Trying again. the second screen shot shows a pick up bar. First bar is only three beats. I want to readjust the entire score correctly. I can do this by splitting each subsequent bars and rejoining to make 4 beats in each one. Is there an easy way to do this. Noteworthy composer has a feature called 'audit bar lines' which readjusts all bar lines automatically. Does musecore has an easy way like that?
Thanks again for your input.

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In reply to by jjohnjacob

Can you attach the MuseScore (.mscz) file of your Screenshot1.PNG which shows the score before you create the pickup?

It looks like you should have inserted a one-beat measure at the beginning then cut/pasted all the notes on top of that one-beat measure. This would have kept all the following measures with 4 beats and placed all notes shifted earlier in time by 1 beat with the final measure containing that dotted half note, followed by a quarter rest (remember still 4/4).
The final bar's actual duration would then be changed to 3/4 (in measure properties) to give that final bar - the complementary bar to the pickup - three beats (shown as a dotted half note).

In reply to by Jm6stringer

Screen shot 1 is the original. I am trying to rescore the same with a pick up measure, not redoing the whole work, but trying to reshuffle the barlines after creating the pick up measure by splitting the first bar. Now I have to split each bar again after the first beat and the rejoin to make each one again to create 4/4 subsequent measures. That makes the last bar with a three beat note and one beat rest or can go back to the first bar as repeat if desired. I am trying to figure out if an easy method is available to do it automatically instead of doing the manual split and rejoining.
Thank you.

In reply to by jjohnjacob

Thanks for the score attachment.
You need to:
Insert a one-beat measure at the beginning (for the pickup).
Cut/paste all the notes on top of that one-beat measure.
Then you can cut/paste the tempo onto the pickup (to move it) and change the actual duration of the final measure to 3 beats (to make the complement to the pickup).
To change the actual duration of a measure, see:

In reply to by jjohnjacob

That's good news!
By creating that one beat pickup and then cut/pasting the notes into it, all the subsequent bars remained 4/4 and filled up nicely. (Essentially the whole score got moved earlier by one beat.)
So, there is no need to split and rejoin subsequent bars as you previously attempted.

In reply to by jjohnjacob

Aha!... Midi import!
Midi is basically a set of 'on-time', 'off-time' instructions to a synthesizer telling it when to sound a note (i.e., an instrument sample) and for how long. Musical notation concepts like key signature, time signature, pickup bar, staccato, etc. are irrelevant to a synthesizer. Converting a midi file into standard musical notation is what can be termed a "hack".

If a choice between midi or musicxml exists, go with musicxml which is more "notation friendly".

You wrote:
This hack helps to resolve it.

Cut/paste and copy/paste are two very powerful tools (not hacks) - useful in more than your particular situation.
Because midi files lack detailed score engraving information, notation software tries to "reconstruct". Conversion may not always be "perfect".
For example:
Notice the "notated" staccato dots compared to the "literal" midi interpretation.

MuseScore 3 supported a technically oriented MIDI Import Panel enabling more than a "once-and-done" default conversion. It allowed for tweaking notation settings, for example - showing staccato or recognizing a pickup measure - before performing the actual conversion into notation.
and examine the picture.

Also, see:
Hopefully bringing back the MIDI Import Panel will facilitate more accurate MIDI importation into MuseScore, thereby requiring less "fixing up".

In reply to by jjohnjacob

“audit bar lines”
Aha. From what I read at , NoteWorthy Composer seems to handle bars/measures fundamentally different from MuseScore. MS keeps track of beats, so the NWC “example, if an existing note starts prior to where a bar line belongs” cannot occur in MS (because duration for each bar is predefined), therefore no need for such a command in MS. Methinks you are trying to do an NWC thing in MS, which is unnecessary. If you want a piece with a 1/4 pickup bar, thereafter straight 4/4:s, just follow steps already linked: (where you find pickup at top, split at bottom).

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