Pipe Organ

• Dec 18, 2022 - 21:00

Will pipe organ sounds be added to Muse Sounds?


I looked at the "muse sounds" list, and I'm not sure what to expect for us serious organists from there. As you should know by now, we have to jump through hoops if we want to even change registration in mid-staff, even of we're using e.g. Stefans Cathedral Organ, which is about the most sophisticated organ font going 'round the Internet.....

In reply to by Chuck Bermingham

in 4.0 (including 4.0.1 and 4.0.2) the reverb is built in and not configurable (although on Windows and macOS you can add more via VST). 4.1 will have a new configurable native reverb function-in reverb on all platforms; you can start testing that already via the nightly development builds (see Download / Software menu on this site).

My guess is no, though I remain hopeful.

Even if the rare developer understands how organ registration works, the implementation would be very complicated and efforts would be extremely difficult. There's likely no single organ that would please everyone and it seems very few people care to use default playback for the organ anyway.

For now, soundfonts are your best option. I like Jeux 1.4. Unfortunately, you currently can't even use the banks of a soundfont in Musescore 4 (see https://musescore.org/en/node/340112 and https://musescore.org/en/node/338603), which is a gross oversight.

In reply to by Tate Shannon

Well then, will the tools in MuseScore 4 be sufficient to handle the performances I have made for MuseScore 3? I think that if not, I will never use version 4. And if that's the case, I wonder what will become of Version 3.
Example: Buxtehude Prelude and Fugue in G minor, performance created in MuseScore 3, rendered in MuseScore 3. Stefans Cathedral Organ soundfont.


In reply to by Tate Shannon

I've been using SINEfactory Crucible for the organ, it's great for Bach's organ works(which is the main reason I got it in the first place). And it works in MuseScore 4. It's a VST instrument.


Example: Passacaglia from Passacaglia and Fugue in C minor BWV 582, MuseScore 4.0.2, SINEfactory Crucible set to Full Sustains + Pedals 8va Sustains


In reply to by Caters

Thank you.

I ask because the performances I've heard do involve changes in the stops at various locations. This is especially true for Buxtehude's Passacaglia, and I'm a diehard fan of his music. I've even considered doing a Musescore/Stefans rendering.

In reply to by Chuck Bermingham

Just a thought here are seeing the change instrument feature. If you have the stops as individual instruments let’s say we start with a contrebombarde 32 ft as our starting point. If let’s say about 5 bars later in the change instruments instruction to change to another stop let’s say Bassoon 16ft?

What I have done myself is set out the score as an orchestral like some others have done here. Then check from the score the recommended stops for the piece and line up the phrases that match the organ stops. If you have a soundfont you can set up the stops in plogue by just dragging the soundfont to the plug-in gui. It sorts the pipes and everything out for you.

If you are more enthusiastic you can use the free polyphone app to sort your stops out. It basically does everything manually that plogue does automatically.

Now using the plogue plugin you can buy the Garritan Organs which is a mishmash of different organs that can play stop change overs but your have to do something to your midi score to make it work, example Diane Bish Toccata on Christ the Lord is Risen where there is a bump from the toccata to the middle section where the turn o sacred head sore wounded comes in. Using the pipe change over you can get a good effect of certain pipes coming in and the trumpet pipes in the toccata being closed. I am not selling that software nut I know that Garritan can do what the questioner has asked.

As a novice in the playback of organ scores how can the registration be changed so that each manual has a different registration? I have MuseScore 4, and Windows 11. Also, the Mixer does not allow one manual to be louder than another. Would three separate staves, as if each were a one-manual organ, allow more independence? Can organ sounds be attached to a single stave?

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