Muse sounds ranges
I'm noticing multiple instruments that don't have the ranges needed. Clarinet doesn't have a Clarinet in A, and so can't play quite the range required for many common pieces - like Mozart's famous clarinet concerto. (though that was originally for basset clarinet, which there extra special isn't the range for)
The Flute 1/Flute 2 cannot go below a c; but b-foots are quite common on flutes now.
Looks like Contrabasses do cover the possibility of having a range extender
I wonder why exactly these sounds are limited by range. Eb clarinet sounds no different than Bb sounds no different than Bass, so why differentiate? There are clarinets in 13 different keys I can think of off the top of my head; that seems like an enormous amount of work. What is the thinking on this?
Hello! This is a known issue indeed - see https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/issues/13894. I think the plan is to find a way to "scale" the frequencies to extend the ranges of the instruments beyond what was originally sampled, rather than try to record additional samples. Hopefully this happens before the initial 4.0 release, but if not, I'd expect it soon thereafter - it's identified as a highest priority issue.
I'd disagree, though, that Eb clarinet sounds no different than Bb or bass clarinet - they have very different timbres even at the same pitch. Bb and bass. But, Bb and A clarinet sound significantly different only right around the break (eg, B4 on a Bb clarinet is Bb4 on an A clarinet, and those notes sound very different). So probably it just wasn't worth the extra time / effort / expense / storage space to record both Bb & A clarinents. But Eb and bass clarinets - absolutely. Alto should have been included as well and is in the top 3 requests for future update (along with euphonium and solo contrabass).
In reply to Hello! This is a known… by Marc Sabatella
I can tell now that there's an actually different instrument being used in the upper ranges. Same for bass clarinet - I was a little fast on that one. I though it was one underlying sample set being range limited.
Although checking that ran me into another range issue on the bass - It doesn't go high enough. tbch, those samples aren't the best either - the production around them does wonders, but I'm curious as to whether anyone has checked out the University of Iowa sample set?
I went and found the sfs I'd been using - Laura's clarinet is indeed my playing, and I didn't loop it. Just held the note longer than most samples. UoI is made from UoI set and I did loop those (probably badly). SSO is from sonatina symphonic orchestra. Just checking the ranges, the bass clarinets are extended another octave down(ugh) to cover for contrabass clarinet. I added a half step lower than the Bb could go to the regular clarinets so they could cover As. They all go up... very high. The highest note I played on the Bb was a Bb7. I've heard someone use E7 in performance - they were covering Sarasote's Carmen Fantasy.
In reply to I can tell now that there's… by Laurelin
The Iowa sounds are definitely well-known in the industry, but I rather doubt they'd have been complete enough for the sorts of things required in Muse Sounds - all the different articulations and combinations.
In reply to The Iowa sounds are… by Marc Sabatella
The Harmonic symbols are allowing me to get some of the sounds on the Upright Bass Section to work but there's now a big gap between the G3 & C4 note range on that sound we need to fill
I agree. I have found multiple times that the french horns do not reach a high enough range for me. I have also seen Bari Sax reach as low as G.