Bug? Drumset assigned keys don't work for Re-pitch entry

• Oct 24, 2021 - 16:11

When replacing rests with notes using the re-pitch note entry, to retain the original duration of the rest, note entry only works by clicking on the note icons in the lower drumset panel. Typing the assigned drumset shortcut keys doesn't do anything.

OS: macOS 10.15, Arch.: x86_64, MuseScore version (64-bit):, revision: 3224f34


Seems to work fine for me, and indeed, significant improvements were made to the process over the past year or so. Can you attach your score and precise steps to reproduce the problem?

EDIT: oh wait, replacing rests with notes? I don't think repitch mode was ever designed to support that, the whole idea is to replace pitches and skip over everything irrelevant like rests. That's true for pitched and unpitched staves.

In reply to by Sambaji

Indeed, as explained above, this isn't a bug, repitch mode was specifically designed to skip rests, and focus just on the pitches. So, if the goal is a copy of measure 1 but with different pitches, don't manually enter rests then change their pitches, just make a copy of the measure then change the pitches.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

The goal isn't to replicate the previous measure. I just gave a very simple example. The goal is to be able to turn rests into notes, when desired, while retaining the original duration. It seems inconsistent to be able to do so by clicking on the drumset icon below, but not by the keyboard shortcut, no? Also, one is able to turn notes into rests of the same duration by hitting the "0" key. Why not allow it the other way too--turn rests into notes of the same duration using a shortcut key?

In reply to by Sambaji

If there are good real world examples of why this would be useful, best to attach them to a feature request. But right now, the real world use cases we know of involve skipping rests, and that’s why the existing feature does just that.

And yes, the bug where the drum palette fails to skip rests should be reported and fixed.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Real-world examples, although much rarer, would be similar to why someone would want to turn a note into the rest of the same duration. Currently, I like the fact that I can turn consecutive notes into rests of the same duration using repitch entry. In contrast, using the default Step-Time replaces the note with the rest of the duration of the initial first entry/selection; it doesn't change. However, it just became clear to me that by selecting the individual rest using Step-Time entry in non-edit mode (ESC, or N key, to escape edit mode) with the touchpad/mouse or the arrow keys before the note shortcut key, I am able to replace rests with a note of the same duration. I am still learning the nuances of each type of note entry--use Repitch to turn consecutive notes into rests of the same duration; select individual rests in Step-Time in non-edit mode to do the opposite.

In reply to by Sambaji

Again, if you can post an actual real-world example - and actual score you encounter in your actual work, and a description of how the features would be useful - that will help any feature request you ultimately submit be understood and prioritized better.

As it is, I'm not really understanding the use case for replacing individual notes with rests any more than I am the reverse. Examples - actual real world examples - help immensely in clarifying things like this.

But for the record,d you don't need repitch mode to replace notes with rests. Delete does the job much more simply. In the vast majority of cases, you'ld simply delete the whole range and let MsueScore calculate the new rests for you, since the rules for notation of rests differ fro the rules for notes - replacing notes with rests one by one is never correct in standard music notation. For, two quarter notes in a row on beats 1 & 2 is common in 4/4 time, but two quarter rests on beats 1 & 2 would not normally be correct.

I could imagine some possible example where for a particular pedagogical purpose - to demonstrate incorrect notation to students, for instance - you might want to show the two individual rests. But you don't need repitch mdoe for that. Much simpler to just enter the rests directly. Or even if for some unforeseen reason you happen to have the exact passage you want already entered as notes, you can delete them one by one in step-tine mode, no need for repitch. I can't think of any good real-world use case for that, but it's true the reverse is not so simple.

So again, if you can demonstrate using a score taken from actual real world use that shows how this would be useful, please attach it when you submit your feature request, so we can understand and prioritize better.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

I am experimenting with using odd tuplets (quintuplets, septuplets, nonuplets, etc) in simple/compound/odd meters to better capture the swing microrhythms of various world traditions such as Moroccan Gnawa music (see, https://musescore.com/user/4534311/scores/7075742?from=notification ). This means that every played note less than a beat has to be represented as a tuplet. Rather than re-enter the tuplet phrase of subdivisions for every non-rest beat, I copy, paste, and then alter. Sometimes, I want to show the subdivisions for pedagogical purposes regardless of which ones are assigned as notes or rests. So in my case, it's pretty idiosyncratic.

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