How to manage multi-section scores when a middle section has e.g. a DS al Fine

• Nov 8, 2019 - 17:56

A section break causes a new line and pauses briefly on playback
A large score like a Mass or an Oratorio may have many sections
so if an inner section has a DS or DC where do you put the section break?
e.g. section 1, with ds al fine, section break, // section 2, section break, // section 3
playback skips section 2
I would not want it at the fine because it will cause a page break and a pause in the middle on the first playback.
I can't put it at the end because it will cause a pause on the first playback.

And if I leave out the section break then the next section is skipped on playback

I had a similar issue the middle with time changes or section breaks, they always seem to add in the wrong spot. I have to add one a bar before the end of the section, move notes back a bar and so on

I wonder if sections could be more clearly separated from each other so that e.g. ctrl-b added to the current section with the properties of the last bar of the section.

Any ideas?

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Put the section break after the coda if it exists or after the d.s./d.c. if there is no coda. Don't forget to put the section break in the measure before the capa (for a d.c.) so the d.c. will go to the correct spot. If you don't want a pause, then right click the blue section break symbol and select section break properties, you can then adjust the pause as you like.

So the layout is start-segno-fine-ds/dc-coda (optional)-section break. Since you have so much control over the break properties, you should always put one at the end of each movement or section.

As for adding measures, it's a bit strange to start movement 2 before movement 1 is finished, but if you plan at all you can insert measures before the last measure of the movement/section before you put notes in it rather than at the end of it.

In reply to by mike320

Thanks, this gets around the pause in the wrong place, but it doesn't allow for a pause after the dc al fine. There is no coda that I am considering. It is not possible to put the pause in after the fine.

Plan? Who ever heard of a composer planning? Things change. Ideas don't happen in sequence.

In reply to by Bob MacDonald1

Who ever heard of a composer planning?

You probably know you don't have enough measures by the time you get to the final measure of a section. Inserting is really the only option.

There is no easy way to put a pause after the fine, but you can put an empty measure of whatever length you want before a new section. It's a yucky workaround but the only one I know. You can make the measure invisible in measure properties so no one will see it.

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