• Aug 21, 2019 - 06:19

I have a score which calls for the flute to "fluttertongue" thirty-second notes: any advice re: how to achieve this in playback? (I'm not even 100% sure what it sounds like in real life.) Thanks!


In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

There are three varieties: made from front-palate with tongue tip, back-palate with back of tongue and from larynx (like gargling),
It is written in the same way as Tremolo.
only an additional text is written on it. (like: f.t., fz., flt, flz, frl. )

f.t. <= text (English) // just type the text once. optional: and write a note at the end.*1
/// <= tremolo on stem //Since it is very difficult to make slow, it should be written as 32th.
o <= note

*1: (This is understood where the tremolos end.)

In reply to by [DELETED] 1831606

Not necessary, this is related to the technique used by the player.

Front-palate technique is suitable for those who play brass instruments.
But a double-reed player makes it easier with the back-palate technique (Using the front-palate disrupts the mouth position.).
Flute can use all three techniques easily.

(I answer the joke seriously)
Note-2: I'm also a horn player.

Oh, we forgot to answer the most important question.
In real life this sound is heard as "Rrrrrr" sound with addition into normal-timbre.
The pronounce of "r" varies according to the technique used.
eg: hard-r, soft-r, french-r.

A similar technique is often used for brass instruments. I don't know if an articulation in the MS pallette could approximate the effect, as it is a timbral effect as much as an articulation. This may require work on the soundfont level.

One of the earliest uses of flutter-tonguing was by Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky in his ballet The Nutcracker. In the opening of the final act, Tchaikovsky makes the flutes flutter-tongue to depict the cascading river of rose-oil seen as Clara and the Nutcracker are welcomed to the kingdom of Confiturembourg: he named the effect frulato, as did the flautist who first introduced him to the technique, Alexander Khimichenko.[3] [from Wikipedia]

example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5VmCcUUSfE

at minute 3:59 each chord is topped with fluttertongued flute

There are better examples in the literature, but this one I am familiar with.

Attached is the exact way it's notated. Questions:

Should the initial two eighths be played as 16th's or 32nd's? Does the bar over indicate that the pitches should alternate (like a wide trill), or should all of the first be played before all of the second?

(I assume the half, quarter, and last eighth notes w/ three lines through the stem means play 32nd notes equivalent to the full notes' duration, not alternating, (if alternating, how, i.e., in what pattern?).)


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In reply to by OlyDLG

I know this is an old thread. This is a technique of repeating a note as fast as you can. Done by rolling an R sound. Much like saying "Roberto" in Spanish. Only rolling the R for all the notes. The the way MuseScore plays this score is much like the actual effect. It's not a or trill or vibrato. More like a drum roll. And it varies from player to player depending on how fast they can roll their tongue. And every instrument has some variation of it.

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