Help with custom tuplet

• Mar 1, 2014 - 17:47

I've been entering tuplets of several notes (triplets, quintuplets, etc., as well as other custom ones) without problems, but this one has me stumped. I am seeing it as 16 beamed notes in the space of one crotchet followed by a beamed crotchet. Together with the crotchet rest and crotchet chord at the beginning of the measure, the measure is a normal 4/4. I select a crotchet rest, go to the notes menu and select tuplets>other. For the relation, I enter 16 and 1 (16 notes in the space of 1 crotchet). But Musescore creates 4 whole rests and when I try to enter the 16 notes I can enter only 4 whole notes, not 16 quavers as in the score. I tried selecting quavers as the note type, but Musescore changes this to whole notes as soon as I enter a note. I know I must be doing something wrong, but I have tried several ways and it just doesn't work for me. Any help is always appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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I see it as follows:
The crotchet rest and the crotchet chord at the beginning of the measure are played at the same time as the minims (the notes with the rest underneath) - they are two voices - adding up to 2 beats.
That leaves a dotted crotchet for the tuplet, followed by the end chord, which is a quaver - I don't rightly know that crotchets (quarter notes) can be beamed, as you say.

If you set up your tuplet on a dotted crotchet rest, enter 32:6 as the relation.
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In reply to by Jm6stringer

Well I see that it worked as you did it, but I don't understand how you arrived at the 32:6 relationship using a dotted crotchet rest. Could you explain a bit more of the logic?
Thanks again.

In reply to by Jm6stringer

It's sixteenth eighths in the amount of time normally taken by 3 eighths (a beat and a half). So you enter the toal length of the tuplet - a dotted quarter rest - first, then divide it into sixteenth parts. 16/3 is how I'd have entered it. But 32/6 is of course the same thing mathematically.

Select a rest (or a note)
Define it as a tuplet of 32:6
This is equivalent to...

Take this duration rest (a dotted quarter note = quarter note + eighth note)
Split it into six parts - this gives you 6 x sixteenth notes or semiquavers
Now let's place 32 of similar notes into this space designed for 6 such notes.
To do that we'd choose 3 (semiquaver) as our note duration and go ahead and enter 32 of the little fellows.

OR - let's place half that number of notes that are twice the duration

Half of 32 = 16
Twice the duration of a semiquaver is a quaver

So we choose 4 as our duration and enter 16 quavers

16:3 would work too, BTW.

OK, so I agree that it isn't the most intuitive of note entry methods but this is an open-source project and anyone is welcome to contribute if they have a better way.

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