Bend tool: notation and layout problems
P1 - High
S3 - Major
Nightly d08e14c (4 Jan 2016) on Win 7 HP / MS 2.0.1 on Win 10.
The bend-tool does not notate multi-stage bends properly:
Create the following in the bend tool, then click on OK:
Expected result: Two-level Bend (half-tone up, then another half-tone up, then release) ending on the same level as where it started
Actual result: The second stage is not drawn properly and the end point is below the start level:
And if you create a semitone bend-and-release, the end point is shown below the start point:
The attached score shows one problem: In bends involving notes on the top line of the TAB staff, the end point is positioned too low:
On the pitched staff, upbends look wrong above F# (top staff line), because the top of the bend seems to be anchored to the note "B" (second space above staff).
What's the expected behavior?
The obvious solution is, above F, to maintain the same bend shape and size as was present at F (in bar 1, top staff line).
Another issue. The bend has a fixed length. It does not stretch or contract with the score layout. It only appears to obey scaling.
#3 came up again in https://musescore.org/de/node/101131
Came up again at https://musescore.org/en/node/255521.
Came up again in https://musescore.org/en/node/65791
There are 4 issues: (1) Bend doesn't expand/contract with layout; (2) Bend squashed on pitched staff above F#; (3) Multi-stage bend can end below start level; (4) Intemediate steps in multi-stage bend drawn wrongly. Need to specify which ones are being fixed.
In reply to There are 3 issues: (1) Bend… by geetar
Ok, with that fix (above your message) all problems are sloved. But have some issues, like bends now is not draw on pitched staff (and some others). Some later i add GP7 style drawning on pitched staff.
Ok, I took a look to the PR and how bends would work in an ideal world. I checked GP7 how they do it and it's a mess :) There is no other
I see two cases
Bend on a single note/string. In this case, GP7 will display an arrow in the tab and some little notes before (prebend) and/or after in the standard staff. These lines are linked by lines. In this case, I believe the Bend object should be in charge to figure out if we are on a std staff or on a tab staff and draw these notes or arrow. These should only be selectable as a whole to be edited via right click > Bend properties (or later the inspector) or deleted. A complication is the handling of accidentals. It seems these little notes should respect the key signature and the current accidental state...
Bend on tied notes. This is where the mess becomes messy :)
First, in this case, the bend can be broken by a line break... So it should work like a spanner and have segments in the tab staff and in the standard staff.
Even if there is no line break, there is no more small notes in standard notation but instead real notes but their pitch needs to be modified depending on the shape of the bend arrow.
Concentrate just on fixing the bend symbol. Don't worry for now about bend hats or bracketed grace noteheads. Slurs with a text annotation do the same job as the former, and the latter isn't mandatory.
See also: Guitar notation legend.
In reply to Ok, I took a look to the PR… by [DELETED] 5
Got it! I will make the same.
Remember that this thread is just to fix existing issues. For new features, see #108286: Bend Tool: Apply bend note-to-note and other improvements. And for playback issues, see #139621: Faulty playback of bend acciaccaturas and #68456: Bends are out of tune.
In reply to (No subject) by Anatoly-os
Came up again : #273966: full bend articulation looks deformed in normal staff on higger notes
In reply to Came up again : #273966:… by cadiz1
Once again: https://musescore.org/en/node/275586
PR got rejected
The author of the PR is not seemed to keep working on it. It doesn't mean anyone can not continue development.
Came up again in: #284599: full step bends garbage text above bend on score
And in comment: https://musescore.org/en/node/284533#comment-898177
Spotted another issue with bend layout. This bug was introduced in musescore 3 and is present in the nightly 1d5ae8a. The text indication is badly placed with prebend.
In musescore 3:
In musescore 2:
Related to #286108: [EPIC] Bends issues.
This thread has now been divided into separate bug reports. See #286108: [EPIC] Bends issues.