Trills and other ornaments with sharp or flat signs
S5 - Suggestion
I haven't found any mention to trills with a small accidental over them.
All accidentals (flat, sharp, natural, double-sharp, double-flat) should be supported.
Other ornaments (mordents, grupettos...) should also be supported.
Grupettos can have upper and lower alterations.
Playback should be a secondary issue.
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Critical is generally reserved for crashes, corruption or content loss :).
While it would be nice to have these more directly, especially if/when playback is supported, note you can get this effect currently by placing the accidental as staff text using the F2 text symbols palette.
Sorry, but what's the F2 palette? I mean, I press F2 and nothing happens.
you need to be in some text input mode, e.g. lyrics or staff text
https://musescore.org/en/node/14442#comment-540581 and https://musescore.org/en/node/21420#comment-540586 seem to be duplicates. If someone disagrees, speak up.
I don't think these are duplicates. Sure they are both talking about compound ornaments but that first one(this thread) is talking about trills and the other is talking about turns. These are 2 completely different ornaments.
Trill = fast notes for x beats
Turn = fast turning of notes(thus the name),
That is a trill
This is a turn
2 completely different ornaments
So I would say that those threads are not duplicates.
Yes, but internally, they are both considered "articulations", and almost without doubt, if it's implemented for one, it will automatically work for all.
Posts crossed and title was accidentally reverted.
How can I put alterations on grupettos ?
I tried but it doesn't work
Please help me
Select a note, open the Symbols palette (press "Z"), find the accidental you want there, double click it, then move it into position. It's more work than we'd like, and it currently won't play back, which is why this is still an open feature request to improve the situation.
In the future, when asking for help in MuseScore, it is better to use the Support forum.
In reply to #13 by Marc Sabatella
Thanks, "Z" to find # for entry, hope to see play back implementation in 3.0
Came up again in https://musescore.org/en/node/252486
In reply to Came up again in https:/… by Jojo-Schmitz
Editing by pressing “z” to find the symbols to drag to custom platter to get ready to decorate works fine, playing by using “hide and seek” v1 and v2 works fine - 100% full control of manual driving is definite an advantage; the only inconvenience is the movements of the symbols, arrow keys cannot shake them, the inspector has to be begged to help. And potential worry is there if they are pleased to follow formats changing later.
In reply to #2 by Marc Sabatella
Which accidental? There are three kinds of b-marks, #-marks, bb-marks and x-marks.
There is a workaround but it is annoying. Adding an invisible, silent note to use the accidental and then moving the accidental seems to work, but I wish it could be built in.
Came up again in https://musescore.org/en/node/297385
Any workaround for this is not satisfying, auto placement or else can easily alter the layout without being noticed.
With autoplacement disabled, this is still an OK workaround at https://musescore.org/en/node/269576#comment-820882 and following.
In reply to With autoplacement disabled,… by mike320
Haha, Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto 1st movement, yeah, that is a classical case of trills with accidental xD
I see... That means it might work in playback in the future ...
Came up in https://musescore.org/en/node/305081 again
been reported since MuseScore 1.x
Hey. I wanted to link this here too:
It's actually about the same feature: could that be made a bit more automatic? Or ambitious ideas?
In reply to (No subject) by Jojo-Schmitz
I'm afraid the "Z" workaround isn't usable for the case with 2 accidentals for the same turn.
So I'd like to subscribe to this issue too...
The workarounds in How to create trills and ornaments with accidentals (and playback) work with accidentals both above and below.
In reply to See https://github.com… by Jojo-Schmitz
That PR isn't related to this, it's about the score not refreshing when adding accidentals to trill lines. Which interestingly I just found out doesn't always work in 3.6.2 either.
Fixed in branch master, commit 69d625a5df
fix #14442: fixed copying elements from the last measure
Fixed in branch master, commit 102f0636f3
_Merge pull request #14461 from RomanPudashkin/copy_elements_from_last_measure
[MU4] Fix #14442: Notes in last bar are missing in parts when adding instruments_
That fix is unrelated