MuseScore 4 - How to change to pizzicato?
Before, one would add text, go to the system text properties, and enable pizzicato. This seems to not be available in MuseScore 4; is this simply not a feature added in yet, or is there a new way to do this?
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That hasn't been necessary for many years. All you need to do is add "Pizz" from the text palette, in both MU3 and MU4.
In reply to That hasn't been necessary… by Marc Sabatella
BTW, I just noticed from a score I created in MU3 that the "Pizz/Arco" transferred as text, but did not replicate during playback in MU4. When I deleted and replaced them in MU4, they worked just fine. Not sure if anyone else had that issue.
In reply to BTW, I just noticed from a… by JS Rozum
That shouldn't be the case - this was true I think during an early alpha or beta build but was fixed months ago. if you have a score that still demonstrates the issue, attach it here so we can take a look.
In reply to That shouldn't be the case -… by Marc Sabatella
In my case, when I change Pizz to Arc for Cello, notes keeping some seems pizz.
Please checkout my score. Foremore, note the weak and soft sound of Cello, even using FF as dynamic
In reply to In my case, when I change… by Nino Terraza
There is no pizz marking in here, but if I add one at the beginning, I don't hear a problem - it switches back to arco where it says it should. Volume sounds about right too,a lthough there is nothing to compare to since there are no other instruments. Are you sure you attached the right score?
In reply to BTW, I just noticed from a… by JS Rozum
Hi, I cannot find pizzicato/arco/1-2-3-4 voices anymore via right click etc on the pizz. text as in Version 3. Can please anyone help? Thanks a lot.
In reply to Hi, I cannot find pizzicato… by [DELETED] 44691044
I only find swing and kapo there
In reply to Hi, I cannot find pizzicato… by [DELETED] 44691044
Remark: found it how to change from the palette but it changed it for both 1st and 2nd voice instead of only 2nd voice.
Classic string instruments like cello often use gripping hand pizzicato (+) simultaneously with arco, this does not work as it did in Version 3. There it worked fine...
So please I need help how to get arco or pizzicato separately for each of the 4 voices per system, thank you
In reply to BTW, I just noticed from a… by JS Rozum
letter B in the example file attached
In reply to That hasn't been necessary… by Marc Sabatella
I've always preferred this method since it allows full manual customization of text; glad to see it has an option in a palette. Do you know if it will be available as a feature by editing text properties in the future, or is that being fully discontinued?
In reply to I've always preferred this… by sihplak
It’s impossible to say for sure to what extent customization will return. But it does seem likely that some customization of these new elements (which, as the status bar will show you, are no longer staff texts, but a new element type) will be implemented at some point.
In reply to That hasn't been necessary… by Marc Sabatella
But when I did, It played the note through the entire score
see above thanks
Having the same problem. Put in "pizz" in text and no change from arco. Any suggestions. Finding Musescore 4 a challenge.
In reply to Having the same problem. Put… by Carol Suddath
Use the pizz. from the text palette
In reply to Use the pizz. from the text… by Jojo-Schmitz
It works, but it's very unintuitive...
In reply to It works, but it's very… by swedzik
What could be more intuitive than picking that pizz. text from the pallette?
In reply to Use the pizz. from the text… by Jojo-Schmitz
It doesn't work in playback. See my note with attached file below
In reply to It doesn't work in playback… by phroglis
And this score was created in MS4
Playback doesn't work for me either, after adding "pizz." from the text palette. When clicking on an individual note it sounds pizzicato, but on play back it is arco.
OS: Windows 10 Version 2009, Arch.: x86_64, MuseScore version (64-bit): 4.0.1-230121751, revision: 9b70a8c
In reply to Playback doesn't work for me… by crispin
Should work unless maybe you're trying to add this to an extremely old score, from say four or more years ago. Then you might need to update your instrument definition (in the instruments panel, replace instrument, and choose same instrument again).
If you continue to have trouble, please attach the score so we can understand and assist better.
In reply to Should work unless maybe you… by Marc Sabatella
Maybe 2 year old MS3 score, opening now in MS4.
Now I find it does work for simple bars, but not this bit!
Score attached (rough draft) - it's bar 234 Viola.
In reply to Maybe 2 year old MS3 score,… by crispin
Indeed, looks like pizz is not supported for arpeggios currently. That is something you should report as an issue on GitHub. meanwhile, the workaround would be to disable playback for the arpeggio symbols using the Properties panel.
In reply to Indeed, looks like pizz is… by Marc Sabatella
OK, thank you Marc. Making do with unarpeggiated chords for now!
In reply to Indeed, looks like pizz is… by Marc Sabatella
PS GitHub says this when trying to create an issue
"This issue tracker is used only for tracking development events.
If you want to create bug reports or feature requests, please go to the forums or the issue tracker on https://musescore.org/. "
So I logged it here https://musescore.org/en/node/344247
In reply to PS GitHub says this when… by crispin
Or #344247: Pizzicato playback doesn't work for arpeggiated chords
But better still ignore that message and report on GitHub anyway
I find that the pizz/arco works for Muse sounds, but not for soundfonts brought from outside, such as the Aegean Orchestra sounds. Is there a way to adjust that?
In reply to I find that the pizz/arco… by Michael E. Henderson
IIRC not any longer in Mu4, but should in Mu3
I'm having ongoing problems in MS4 with pizz indicator not being acknowledged. Help? (This occurs frequently and it's driving me batty!)
In reply to I'm having ongoing problems… by phroglis
You have gone out of your way to select the Violin, Viola, and Cello sounds from MS Basic, rather than leaving the defaults in place which would let MuseScore choose the sounds automatically. You need to reopen the Mixer and set those sounds back to the defaults (either the corresponding Muse Sounds instruments or MS Basic / Choose automatically) so it can switch to the pizz sounds when appropriate and not stay locked to the MS Basic specific sounds you chose.
In reply to You have gone ouit of your… by Marc Sabatella
Sorry, but I can't figure out how to reset to default. How?
My problem in past is the default sounds horrific - notes bleed into each other. So, I selected the voices individually to find a way to hear individual notes
In reply to Sorry, but I can't figure… by phroglis
There's no individual instrument option, only plural violins, etc.
In reply to There's no individual… by phroglis
That's in MuseSounds instruments. I don't see any way to set the mixer to choose automatically.
In reply to That's in MuseSounds… by phroglis
Ugh! Didn't see the shaded "choose automatically" header as an option! okay. Guess that works. But it didn't reset until I had reset more than one instrument. Thanks!
In reply to That's in MuseSounds… by phroglis
You don’t need to - merely select solo violin 1 (or any of the other string sounds) automatically includes correct support for pizz etc. That because MuseSounds has a lot of smarts built into it where each instrument “knows” the various sounds it can produce and select between them based directly on the notation . Whereas sound fonts like MS Basic require MuseScore to work harder to manage all that, and this only works when you set it to “choose automatically.”
But again, you can set the all at once by just using View / Playback profile.
In reply to There's no individual… by phroglis
Suite there is - “Violin 1 (Solo)” and so on in MuseSounds / Muse Strings.
In reply to Sorry, but I can't figure… by phroglis
The portamento that is included in the default Muse Sounds solo strings can be disabled by adding a staff text and setting the sound flag to “classic phrasing”. So for the highest quality playback, that’s the way to go - use the solo sounds in Muse Sounds, add the sound flag. If on the other hand you are content with the more synthesized sound of
In reply to The portamento that is… by Marc Sabatella
Thanks! That's a big help.